Gonna start liveblogging now 1/3 into the debate
Kerry had a good reply about winning the peace being the job of the President, winning the war being the job of the generals, and Bush looked really constipated trying to restrain his looks.
So far Bush has been doing far better than behind a rostrum, but he still speaks with a drawl that reminds me of "itz so simple, why dun you get it ... (i dun quite get it, but why dun u?) ..."
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Then Kerry makes a gaffe ".... Iraq ... wasn't a threat"
*WHAT?* ... do Americans buy that?
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Kerry should stop naming so many generals, and instead talk about what he's gonna do about the war on terror ...
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Oh Senator, what a sly turn from homeland security to tax plans and healthcare ... but unfortunately it sounds totally irrelevant.
This whole homeland security sounds like a rehash from the first debate. Oh there comes the hurting senate record business. Kerry still hasn't replied to that. Instead Kerry looks bored ...
"I don't think my opponent has the right view of the world to succeed in Iraq" .... ooooh Bush saying that harks back to his "I KNOW about the world" comment in the first debate ...
"The test is not if you've added money, the test is if you've done the things ..." OH HAHA try telling that to Tony Blair who lurrrrvves harping on "we've put XXXX pounds into health, education ..."
"I worry, I worry, I worry" ... sometimes you wonder what he's worried about, Bush ...
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Domestic Policy - Prescription Drugs
"Looks like it's from Canada, might be from the 3W" ... another reason why Canadians dun like Bush ...
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"We did something you didn't know how to do, we balanced the budget".
Ouch.
Why is Kerry so a little jittery on healthcare ... should be his pet issue aint it? Or was he caught out by the way the question was cut in ... from the perspective of his choice of running mate ...? Or was it cos' he was talking about johnkerry.com HAHA
Oh no why is Bush going on the negative?? It makes him sound really bitter ... Wrong move ... And then he proceeds to use "liberal" OH WHY? Who taught him to do that ... terrible. But maybe labels still work these days.
So far Bush has been doing far better than behind a rostrum, but he still speaks with a drawl that reminds me of "itz so simple, why dun you get it ... (i dun quite get it, but why dun u?) ..."
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Then Kerry makes a gaffe ".... Iraq ... wasn't a threat"
*WHAT?* ... do Americans buy that?
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Kerry should stop naming so many generals, and instead talk about what he's gonna do about the war on terror ...
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Oh Senator, what a sly turn from homeland security to tax plans and healthcare ... but unfortunately it sounds totally irrelevant.
This whole homeland security sounds like a rehash from the first debate. Oh there comes the hurting senate record business. Kerry still hasn't replied to that. Instead Kerry looks bored ...
"I don't think my opponent has the right view of the world to succeed in Iraq" .... ooooh Bush saying that harks back to his "I KNOW about the world" comment in the first debate ...
"The test is not if you've added money, the test is if you've done the things ..." OH HAHA try telling that to Tony Blair who lurrrrvves harping on "we've put XXXX pounds into health, education ..."
"I worry, I worry, I worry" ... sometimes you wonder what he's worried about, Bush ...
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Domestic Policy - Prescription Drugs
"Looks like it's from Canada, might be from the 3W" ... another reason why Canadians dun like Bush ...
Bush "I went to Washington to fix problems" ... oh and to create some as well I guess?
Kerry has another weird reply. Just PUSH THE FLIP FLOP TO BUSH! Why doesn't he ever do that?
Instead Kerry goes on the favourite Democrat interest groups ladida issue ... Oh no the "fighting for the middle class" sounds so fake ...
Now ... on to the budget ...
Kerry has another weird reply. Just PUSH THE FLIP FLOP TO BUSH! Why doesn't he ever do that?
Instead Kerry goes on the favourite Democrat interest groups ladida issue ... Oh no the "fighting for the middle class" sounds so fake ...
Now ... on to the budget ...
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"We did something you didn't know how to do, we balanced the budget".
Ouch.
Why is Kerry so a little jittery on healthcare ... should be his pet issue aint it? Or was he caught out by the way the question was cut in ... from the perspective of his choice of running mate ...? Or was it cos' he was talking about johnkerry.com HAHA
Oh no why is Bush going on the negative?? It makes him sound really bitter ... Wrong move ... And then he proceeds to use "liberal" OH WHY? Who taught him to do that ... terrible. But maybe labels still work these days.
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Bush is now trotting out his pet issues. He's trying to portray himself as a war president. I think itz a good thing he's talking on the level of like my mother. I can understand him very well.
Except when he says "we're working together". With who? errrr ....
Oh gosh why is Kerry stumbling and stumbling ...
Bush "Look at the budget" ... again that drawl ... why ... does everybody look at the budget?!
Kerry's reply on tax ... was a little wasted. Started pretty well in the camera... then got a little dragged into detail. Needs to work on that. But the final touch was good, "the President, me, and i'm sorry, you Charlie" ... taking a leaf out of CLinton's "I get a tax cut?! I don't want a tax cut."
That's very smart of Bush to use the phrase "tax rise" ... in effect that's what's gonna happen to the >200,000 earners.
Bush wants to tackle Kerry on his record. Kerry takes the most sensible route, and takes the collective record of his potential Administration and the Clintonesque team. Kerry should implicitly attack Bush's team. Looking at Bush alone, he's going nowhere. He can hardly touch Bush effectively ...
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Oh NO! Bush totally CANNOT MAKE IT ON ENVIRONMENT POLICY! ... oh no ... this is bad ... oh *cringe*
"I guess you'd say ... I'm a good steward of the land" Oh I'm so cringing.
Bush quite effectively uses the "please Europe". Kerry rebutted quite well, based on the work on international negotiations.
And we have the answer why Kerry's always not in the Senate, cos' he was in Kyoto, in UN, in Vietnam ... in etc. etc. etc. ... anyehere, not Washington D.C.
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What's this nonsense about a timber company coming out from Kerry?! Weird ... he probably means oil company.
But here comes the Patriot Act ...
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Oh I thought it was about the Patriot Act, until Bush turned it into a law-and-order answer ... errr you don't need the Patriot Act to do those stuff you know ... what a sly diversion.
Kerry said it ... That's a good reply.
And now here comes stem cells. The press aren't lying about the hot issues man ... Or issit just the selection of the questions.
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We all now anticipate Bush's Christian lines, since Kerry didn't use them ...
Okay, they didn't appear. But both candidates look competent on this subject. Kerry looked like he wanted to crush Bush or something.
So we move on to the Supreme Court. That was a good reply by Bush ... "I'm not telling". I mean who the hell would tell?! And then he proceeds to dodge the question. Maybe he should say I will appoint judges who will win Florida for me haha.
Bush "The Constitution says you know ... it doesn't SAY THAT" WOW! Oh gosh!!!!!!
Bush is now trotting out his pet issues. He's trying to portray himself as a war president. I think itz a good thing he's talking on the level of like my mother. I can understand him very well.
Except when he says "we're working together". With who? errrr ....
Oh gosh why is Kerry stumbling and stumbling ...
Bush "Look at the budget" ... again that drawl ... why ... does everybody look at the budget?!
Kerry's reply on tax ... was a little wasted. Started pretty well in the camera... then got a little dragged into detail. Needs to work on that. But the final touch was good, "the President, me, and i'm sorry, you Charlie" ... taking a leaf out of CLinton's "I get a tax cut?! I don't want a tax cut."
That's very smart of Bush to use the phrase "tax rise" ... in effect that's what's gonna happen to the >200,000 earners.
Bush wants to tackle Kerry on his record. Kerry takes the most sensible route, and takes the collective record of his potential Administration and the Clintonesque team. Kerry should implicitly attack Bush's team. Looking at Bush alone, he's going nowhere. He can hardly touch Bush effectively ...
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Oh NO! Bush totally CANNOT MAKE IT ON ENVIRONMENT POLICY! ... oh no ... this is bad ... oh *cringe*
"I guess you'd say ... I'm a good steward of the land" Oh I'm so cringing.
Bush quite effectively uses the "please Europe". Kerry rebutted quite well, based on the work on international negotiations.
And we have the answer why Kerry's always not in the Senate, cos' he was in Kyoto, in UN, in Vietnam ... in etc. etc. etc. ... anyehere, not Washington D.C.
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What's this nonsense about a timber company coming out from Kerry?! Weird ... he probably means oil company.
But here comes the Patriot Act ...
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Oh I thought it was about the Patriot Act, until Bush turned it into a law-and-order answer ... errr you don't need the Patriot Act to do those stuff you know ... what a sly diversion.
Kerry said it ... That's a good reply.
And now here comes stem cells. The press aren't lying about the hot issues man ... Or issit just the selection of the questions.
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We all now anticipate Bush's Christian lines, since Kerry didn't use them ...
Okay, they didn't appear. But both candidates look competent on this subject. Kerry looked like he wanted to crush Bush or something.
So we move on to the Supreme Court. That was a good reply by Bush ... "I'm not telling". I mean who the hell would tell?! And then he proceeds to dodge the question. Maybe he should say I will appoint judges who will win Florida for me haha.
Bush "The Constitution says you know ... it doesn't SAY THAT" WOW! Oh gosh!!!!!!
Kerry should have said I will appoint judges who will win America for me ... Oh wait, I can't appoint until I've won America. Oh shit ... Okay I'm bullshitting.
And actually Kerry and Bush both have bad answers. I don't understand why Kerry somehow sounds better ...
And actually Kerry and Bush both have bad answers. I don't understand why Kerry somehow sounds better ...
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Abortion. Good old issue.
Kerry's answer was terrible. Or rather it descended into terrible-ness. He still needs to work on that...
Oh wow. This is amazing. The abortion debate shows in essence the difference between Bush and Kerry. Bush just thinks "it's just yes or no", Kerry thinks itz not as simple as that ... It's almost the supreme curiosity of mine is this race how American will respond to this difference.
And finally, here comes the very good question about whether Bush thinks he's done anything wrong. Of course everybody remembers that infamous Iraq press conference. And he just took the Tony Blair line about how the ISG report confirms the justification ... totally untenable in UK and triggered Hewitt's apology, how will it go down in USA ...?? dunno ...? I thought Bush had a good question.
Kerry would want to conclude on Iraq. He wants to strike home on others' home ground. Kerry rebutted well finally.
Let's now have closing statements.
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At the first debate Kerry crushed Bush at the closing statement. Kerry kept up his standard of his first debate closing debate. Bush also kept up his standard, his standard at the Republican convention. Good conclusions ... I thought this was much closer than the first debate, but I still think Kerry has the slight edge ... On the other hand, Bush must be relieved ...
Kerry's answer was terrible. Or rather it descended into terrible-ness. He still needs to work on that...
Oh wow. This is amazing. The abortion debate shows in essence the difference between Bush and Kerry. Bush just thinks "it's just yes or no", Kerry thinks itz not as simple as that ... It's almost the supreme curiosity of mine is this race how American will respond to this difference.
And finally, here comes the very good question about whether Bush thinks he's done anything wrong. Of course everybody remembers that infamous Iraq press conference. And he just took the Tony Blair line about how the ISG report confirms the justification ... totally untenable in UK and triggered Hewitt's apology, how will it go down in USA ...?? dunno ...? I thought Bush had a good question.
Kerry would want to conclude on Iraq. He wants to strike home on others' home ground. Kerry rebutted well finally.
Let's now have closing statements.
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At the first debate Kerry crushed Bush at the closing statement. Kerry kept up his standard of his first debate closing debate. Bush also kept up his standard, his standard at the Republican convention. Good conclusions ... I thought this was much closer than the first debate, but I still think Kerry has the slight edge ... On the other hand, Bush must be relieved ...